tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12467669.post8560201295652694779..comments2023-04-29T07:23:25.825-04:00Comments on Jay Fields' Thoughts: Is it better than TextMate? (Ruby IDE redux)Jayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14491442812573747680noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12467669.post-45703976541750338222010-12-29T02:35:33.644-05:002010-12-29T02:35:33.644-05:00No question at this point, RubyMine is the winner....No question at this point, RubyMine is the winner. I still use TextMate a lot too though.Laran Evanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10401956184988690681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12467669.post-79225096578094272312009-05-13T07:20:00.000-04:002009-05-13T07:20:00.000-04:00Tried almost every IDE.
RubyMine is by far the bes...Tried almost every IDE.<br />RubyMine is by far the best.Jorishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05395441592036173495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12467669.post-64177050569409860242007-10-09T23:25:00.000-04:002007-10-09T23:25:00.000-04:00I actually use two free products -- VIM (Linux/Win...I actually use two free products -- VIM (Linux/Windows) and PSPad (http://www.pspad.com/en/ - Windows).mikehoskinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07689468586582130180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12467669.post-8989839256230555132007-10-08T02:56:00.000-04:002007-10-08T02:56:00.000-04:00lol, I know what Toby would say.IDE.... pffft, not...lol, I know what Toby would say.<BR/><BR/>IDE.... pffft, not needed :)<BR/><BR/>I have to agree, TextMate is just so much faster than any IDE I have tried with rails dev. And now that the ruby-debugger is back in I can step through code without raising everywhere.<BR/><BR/>Say hi to Vivek and Toby!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13196975545980706685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12467669.post-45923118958394967342007-10-04T02:04:00.000-04:002007-10-04T02:04:00.000-04:00I'm perfectly content switching between Vim and Ne...I'm perfectly content switching between Vim and Netbeans depending on my mood. I've been a fan of Netbeans since its early releases and since getting into Vim about a year ago I've used the two exclusively for Ruby/Rails development.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12467669.post-59246748270952133512007-10-03T22:16:00.000-04:002007-10-03T22:16:00.000-04:00I hate to be "that guy", but perhaps a simple Emac...I hate to be "that guy", but perhaps a simple Emacs + the email-rails plugin will provide what you need? I've been using Emacs for about 7 years (I'm not THAT old), and have found it quite useful on all platforms for all languages, including Java and most recently Ruby. <BR/><BR/>Plus, I save so much time not worrying about those bloated graphical IDEs and switching every few months as one trumps another on the latest and greatest "must have" feature.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12467669.post-92224402155429361862007-10-03T16:59:00.000-04:002007-10-03T16:59:00.000-04:00I love Netbeans. I've been using the latest snapsh...I love Netbeans. I've been using the latest snapshot releases for months now on x86 linux, and can't say I've had any crashes or any problems with it at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12467669.post-16843964211766534962007-10-03T16:01:00.000-04:002007-10-03T16:01:00.000-04:00I am a heavy Linux user who sometimes needs to wor...I am a heavy Linux user who sometimes needs to work in Windows. I have tried RadRails, JEdit and NetBeans on both Linux and Windows. I've also used eTextEditor on Windows. Here's my experience:<BR/><BR/>RadRails - was not that impressed. <BR/>JEdit - very simple text editor<BR/>eTextEditor - I prefer this to JEdit in Windows, but it is not free.<BR/>NetBeans - probably the most feature complete, albeit nowhere near as responsive as my editor of choice (VI). Crashes twice a day for me in Windows. In Linux, crashes every 25 minutes.<BR/><BR/>And I'm back to Screen/VIM.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10396904220533470356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12467669.post-79716055826592693742007-10-03T04:11:00.000-04:002007-10-03T04:11:00.000-04:00Heh, the interesting thing about IDEs, and especia...Heh, the interesting thing about IDEs, and especially IDEs writting in Java, is that it's the first time in computing history where you'd use a text editor as a benchmark. :-P<BR/><BR/>IDEs tend to be so memory hungry and bloated (<I>especially</I> the ones written in Java -- it may be true that Java is as fast as anything else, but it sure doesn't go well with tight memory) that if you're creating anything serious, it can be a problem to run your IDE and the application you're writing at the same time. :-D<BR/>Ok, that's not entirely true, but it does seem ironic. On less than 1G of memory, software development with an IDE seems impossible.<BR/><BR/>- SimonSimonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06637315724453951887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12467669.post-4726627478085622012007-10-03T02:11:00.000-04:002007-10-03T02:11:00.000-04:00I honestly don't understand the need for an IDE wi...I honestly don't understand the need for an IDE with a dynamic language. I mean, a good editor, such as Vim or Emacs, can do just about anything I need in conjunction with a few well-chosen tools. I've worked on large projects with both Vim and Emacs, happy as a clam, never sighing longingly the way I would definitely be doing if I were, say, using Java without and IDE. I think that sometimes developers want IDEs so they can have that same "Cool!" feeling they first got when they started using Visual Studio or TurboWhatever. Because, as far as I'm concerned, for Web development, Firefox equipped with Firebug, the Web Developer Toolbar, and Selenium, along with Emacs loaded with Rails mode and a few other choice elisp apps, all brought together by the Yakuake term under Ubuntu -- I'll pit that against any IDE out there. My whole freakin' system is an IDE.GMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16554253761930565252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12467669.post-41107821702435811532007-10-03T01:29:00.000-04:002007-10-03T01:29:00.000-04:00I havent used Textmate so far as i do not use a Ma...I havent used Textmate so far as i do not use a Mac.On Linux Emacs has been my choice for Ruby/Rails.I used to use Intellij because of its browsing capabilities till i came across this<BR/>http://dima-exe.ru/rails-on-emacsUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00888990925368493046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12467669.post-85547493166900101402007-10-03T00:26:00.000-04:002007-10-03T00:26:00.000-04:00I used TextMate, and while I liked it the fact tha...I used TextMate, and while I liked it the fact that I can only run it on my Mac became an issue for me. I decided to take the plunge (finally) into Emacs and from my experience I haven't found a reason to continue to use TextMate. The RoR integration is what sold me, and the fact that I can use the same Emacs config on Windows, Linux, and OS X. Has anyone used Emacs for RoR who has had a similar experience, or can point out where TextMate might be superior?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12467669.post-24652298711852575892007-10-02T23:53:00.000-04:002007-10-02T23:53:00.000-04:00Oops, forgot to address the original question. :)I...Oops, forgot to address the original question. :)<BR/><BR/>I've got NetBeans, RadRails, and IntelliJ installed, as well as jEdit and Komodo, but I keep coming back to TextMate. It's not perfect (if it were, I wouldn't have all those others) but it's light and fast and has some really fun features that the others don't. As long as I don't refactor or debug, I'll be OK. :)kevwilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06403855850049348203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12467669.post-60752277914524495652007-10-02T23:49:00.000-04:002007-10-02T23:49:00.000-04:00I almost tried 3rdRail, until I saw that was going...I almost tried 3rdRail, until I saw that was going to duplicate almost everything on my dev box ... and cost a lot. Sorry, not even worth trying it for me. I'm sure it's perfect for some folks, just not for me.kevwilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06403855850049348203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12467669.post-20502504484838894562007-10-02T21:18:00.000-04:002007-10-02T21:18:00.000-04:00why not 3rdrail:http://www.codegear.com/products/3...why not 3rdrail:<BR/>http://www.codegear.com/products/3rdrailUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06741718928927526238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12467669.post-78441714996935178902007-10-02T15:01:00.000-04:002007-10-02T15:01:00.000-04:00Netbeans builds been stable for me for many months...Netbeans builds been stable for me for many months now; I don't recall any crashes in a very long time. The Ruby-only IDE is the best of many I've tried (though I haven't used TextMate extensively).Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02261655075557604523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12467669.post-13663648130424698952007-10-02T12:12:00.000-04:002007-10-02T12:12:00.000-04:00This post reminded me that in NetBeans beta1, we w...This post reminded me that in NetBeans beta1, we were using a garbage collection mode that is not well handled (=frequent crashes) on OSX. It's easy to disable (and it has been for beta2). More details here:<BR/><A HREF="http://blogs.sun.com/tor/entry/disable_crashing" REL="nofollow"><BR/>http://blogs.sun.com/tor/entry/disable_crashing<BR/></A>Tor Norbyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00746799716822637466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12467669.post-27505404586365210532007-10-02T08:00:00.000-04:002007-10-02T08:00:00.000-04:00Even once a week crashes would see me livid.Even once a week crashes would see me livid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12467669.post-41660148337432330782007-10-02T07:32:00.000-04:002007-10-02T07:32:00.000-04:00Well, I can't speak for tm, but NetBeans has never...Well, I can't speak for tm, but NetBeans has never crashed for me, and it's UI is extremely responsive on every machine I've tried.<BR/><BR/>Can't imagine what sort of problems you've faced, but my experience with NetBeans and Ruby has been spectacular!John Wellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02781599057887051142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12467669.post-82225078623340834582007-10-02T04:48:00.000-04:002007-10-02T04:48:00.000-04:00Have you canvased opinions on Ruby In Steel? Even ...Have you canvased opinions on Ruby In Steel? Even though this is a Visual Studio package, we know of at least one customer who thinks it's worth the effort of running it on a Mac!!! ;-)<BR/><BR/>http://www.sapphiresteel.com/Ruby-In-Steel-on-a-Macintosh<BR/><BR/>best wishes<BR/>Huw Collingbourne<BR/>SapphireSteel SoftwareAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12467669.post-22259176652213711182007-10-02T02:14:00.000-04:002007-10-02T02:14:00.000-04:00Keep in mind NetBeans is still in beta, and unlike...Keep in mind NetBeans is still in beta, and unlike IntelliJ (as far as I know) you can get a stripped-down version that's just Ruby support. I haven't spent a lot of time in TextMate, but having real code completion with rdoc, jump to declaration, and some basic refactorings already makes it worthwhile.Charles Oliver Nutterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06400331959739924670noreply@blogger.com